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Pro-government group threaten to surround H.K. protest sites
by Staff Writers
Hong Kong (AFP) Oct 11, 2014


Hong Kong leader says protests have 'almost zero chance'
Hong Kong (AFP) Oct 12, 2014 - Hong Kong's pro-democracy protesters have an "almost zero chance" of changing Beijing's stance and securing free elections despite more than two weeks of rallies, the city's embattled leader Leung Chun-ying said Sunday.

Demonstrators calling for Beijing to grant full democracy to the former British colony have paralysed parts of Hong Kong, prompting clashes with elements who oppose the blockades and widespread disruption.

Despite repeated orders to disperse, the rallies have taken on an air of permanence, with tents, portable showers and lecture venues -- drawing thousands of people in recent evenings.

In an interview broadcast on local channel TVB Sunday, Leung said the street protests had "spun out of control" and warned it was highly unlikely the action would alter Beijing's position.

After police were criticised for unleashing tear gas on the rallies in late September, the city's chief executive said that if the government had to clear the protests sites, police would use a "minimum amount of force".

China announced in August that while Hong Kongers will be able to vote for Leung's successor in 2017, only two or three vetted candidates will be allowed to stand -- an arrangement the protesters dismiss as "fake democracy".

Since last month students and pro-democracy campaigners have taken to the streets -- sometimes in their tens of thousands -- to call for Beijing to change its position and allow full, free and fair elections and to demand Leung's resignation.

"In achieving universal suffrage in 2017, if the prerequisite is to put down the Basic Law and the decision made by the National People's Congress Standing Committee, I believe we all know that the chance is almost zero," Leung said.

Crunch talks between student leaders and city officials collapsed last week, deepening the crisis in the semi-autonomous city as protesters vowed to dig in for the long haul.

- Heated stand-off -

Demonstrators are occupying three areas of the city. In the districts of Admiralty and Causeway Bay on Hong Kong island many have dug in with food, tents and bedding, as well as displays of artwork, giving the usually busy thoroughfares a carnival feel.

There was a heated stand-off Sunday as a pro-government group marched on Mongkok -- a flashpoint district which has seen ugly scuffles -- with police intervening to keep them apart from the rival activists.

About 200 people took to the streets of the popular shopping hub to call for action to clear the democracy camps, shouting slogans such as "Support police to strictly enforce the law" and "Clear the occupation".

"We want to have a peaceful life. I don't want anybody to occupy Hong Kong. They are making our home a mess," said 63-year-old Stanley Yeung.

"They cannot threaten the central government with a knife at its neck. China is a very powerful country now. Too much freedom and democracy is no good," the retired civil servant told AFP.

In what has become a colour-coded battle, the pro-government Blue Ribbon Movement has threatened to surround the protest sites unless authorities dismantle them by Tuesday night.

Leung was unable to say how the current stalemate between the two sides might end, despite being repeatedly asked for a solution during the television interview.

"We've resorted to all kinds of persuasions, the way we resolve it in the end is being constantly reviewed," he said.

"We absolutely would not prefer clearing the venue, but if one day the venue has to be cleared, I believe the police will use their professional judgement and training using minimum amount of force," he said.

Leung reiterated his insistence that he will not resign, saying it would not resolve the situation.

A Hong Kong pro-government group said Saturday demonstrators occupying main roads to protest for full democracy would find themselves surrounded if the city's administration failed to clear the barricades.

The Blue Ribbon Movement said the authorities should dismantle three sites the protesters have closed to traffic by Tuesday night or they would encircle them, as the city's political deadlock enters its third week.

"If the HK government will not do that, we're planning to surround those people who occupy Mong Kok, Causeway Bay and Admiralty," Tsoi Hak-kin, vice chairman of the pro-government movement told AFP.

"Hong Kong people have suffered too much," Tsoi said, without giving further details of how or when the group would surround sites that have attracted tens of thousands in the past two weeks, far outnumbering the turnout of counter-protesters.

In August a network of pro-Beijing groups organised an anti-Occupy protest march that drew tens of thousands -- although there were allegations that some protesters were paid or bussed in from the mainland.

Crunch negotiations between protesters and Beijing-backed city officials were scheduled for Friday but fell apart Thursday after the government pulled out, blaming protesters for threatening to expand their campaign.

"The meeting and the dialogue should be based on the decision made by the National People's Congress Standing Committee on August 31," chief secretary Carrie Lam told reporters in Guangzhou where she is attending a trade forum.

Lam's comment referred to a decision adopted by China's rubber stamp parliament that candidates would have to be preselected by a committee of fewer than 1,200 people dominated by Beijing loyalists in order to appear on the ballot paper.

More than 1,000 protesters and around 100 tents were seen in the Admiralty region of Hong Kong early Saturday night after 15,000 took part in a mass rally on Friday.

But tempers are fraying in the semi-autonomous territory, with shop owners losing lucrative business and commuters voicing irritation at their disrupted journeys to work.

- 'We treat this place as home' -

Pro-democracy groups in Hong Kong have made yellow ribbons a symbol of their movement, while opposing groups have distinguished themselves with blue ribbons, a nod to the blue colour of police officers' uniforms.

Under plans unveiled by China in August, Hong Kong's citizens will be able to vote for the chief executive in 2017, but only two-to-three vetted candidates will be allowed to stand -- something detractors have dismissed as a "fake democracy".

Yeung Hoi-ki, a 22-year-old university student, said she borrowed a tent from a friend and is planning to sleep on the roads of Admiralty, the main occupation site for the movement.

"In the past few days I couldn't see hope (for the movement). But suddenly Carrie Lam spoke (of collapsed talks) then more people came out," Yeung told AFP of protesters regrouping on Friday.

"Now we treat this place as home. We are staying in tents and we are as determined as ever," she said.

But in an apparent setback to the energetic student base of the movement, 17-year-old Agnes Chow of the group Scholarism said she was stepping down from her position as a spokesperson due to "heavy stress".

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